Forum topic: Whats going on with based on development for season 10 Frank?

New Zealand Daan M

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The call for instant parts is not the issue though, it's that we are still waiting a simple answer 2 days before the new season starts (lol) whether or not the whole season of developing based on parts are ACTUALLY based on this seasons ratings; or if they have been based on an unknown rating and produced bugged results. The latter meaning this method will have unfairly sucker punched a lot of teams through no fault of their own.

Imagine being told every £1 you spent this year was actually unknowingly costing you £100; but you wouldn't know until the last day of your annual pay check. Too late to change it but you'd be compensated or at least amended for the mistake!

Same situation. If it has been incorrectly calculated, teams should be compensated. In this case, instant parts is compensation and caters the loss of building pointless arbitrary 'based on items.

Doesn't affect me as I built both sets. But for those that didn't or couldn't due to resources, this puts them at another disadvantage than they already were with less design space and staff.

Then again, based on could be working.

Answers to this please Frank before any more points brainstorming. Let's walk before we run!
April 22, 2017 01:10 am

New Zealand Daan M

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April 22, 2017 01:10 am

Austria Lukas Fenninger Pitwall Administrator

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My (hopefully) last statement on this: I already told all of you in the chat that I'm pretty sure its not working. And I think I was the first to state this in the chat too.
And also, all teams (especially the bigger ones) had all ability to test this themselves.

Here my steering system I tested this:
http://imgur.com/a/QEstB
Thats a based on steering system, my researchlevel was 5 due to not doing research, it dropped to 4 after finish and I did testbed.
The steering system I based that new one on had power steering at 7 with plenty of potential!
So clearly its not working, everyone of you could have tested this a long time ago.

The only teams that are really punished are smaller teams, they simply dont have resources to test stuff like that.


And yeah, its totally unfair if we all get insta parts, because I could have focused on this season and get better parts to base the new parts on, if that was fixed and we get instaparts.
April 22, 2017 10:35 am

United Kingdom Daniel Stevens

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yeah but saying in the chat (that not everyone reads) that it is probably not working is not really an end of discussion. I saw it as well - but remember the display bug at the start of the season where it said every part had a terrible research level? - oh yeah that was a display bug so don't worry - just want confirmation that this is the case this time. - if it isn't that's fine too but it would be nice to know that every season we need to build a whole new car off fresh new designs - never been this way before and I don't remember Frank saying it should be this way either
April 22, 2017 11:17 am

Austria Lukas Fenninger Pitwall Administrator

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I'm sure it's a bug, otherwise the 'based on' feature is useless and would have been removed.

I agree that we need final confirmation, but by the looks of my instant parts it seems broken.
April 22, 2017 12:16 pm

Belgium Frank Van Laere Pitwall Administrator

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Basing on a part for a higher season is not possible by design (for the "current season" it is) in the new system for now. This is because the illegal parts are not activated yet (disqualification are not implemented yet). The reasoning behind that is that otherwise you could base on a part that is illegal the next season. Right now all parts that are created are still always maxed to their legality.

I think this was communicated, but I'm not sure and it clearly wasn't very clear anyhow. So my bad and I'll see what I can do about it.
April 22, 2017 01:14 pm

United Kingdom John Humphreys

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That explains it, but this wasn't widely known at all. It is the same for everyone, so I don't think anything needs to be done - I've just created duplicate parts effectively!
April 22, 2017 01:50 pm

Austria Lukas Fenninger Pitwall Administrator

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Thanks for clarification, Frank!
April 22, 2017 02:05 pm

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I did not know

if it was communicated the spot for such info would be the news section AND the help section ;)

smart ass off
April 22, 2017 02:18 pm

United Kingdom Daniel Stevens

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Ok - the only major issue I have with this is that it essentially means the team with the best designer or design team will win - as there is no time to catch up over a season or into the next season. This is a major flaw imo as it takes away several other routes to play the game
April 22, 2017 02:50 pm

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