Forum topic: Long term view

United Kingdom Mark Brown

138 races

3 championships

11 wins

35 podiums

Current team

I think that there is too little attention to a team being able to build itself up over many seasons 4-8.
At the moment I am having some success in my division and it's going straight to my staffs heads.
I have a jnr commercial age 43 ranked 43 whos stats are all Terrible.
Now he wants to resign a contract for more than half a mil each week.

I thought this game was built around growing a team from nothing to eventually take the Div 1 title.
At the moment any success in lower divisions just means your staff want heaps of money regardless of how good they actually are and it's not feasible.
It just means now that I am going to have staff that have terrible Moral and when their contracts are up I wont be resigning them and will haev to start again.
The only way I can now see to be successful is to save a heap of money and then when I get in to DIV 1 try to steal the best staff, lose money and either go bankrupt or sign the staff on really short contracts. But that will end up meaning a few years after being successful(if it ever happens) I will just then be demoted and haev to go through the process again.

Bit frustrating
May 21, 2016 06:12 am

United Kingdom Daniel Stevens

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408 races

7 championships

29 wins

94 podiums

Current team

agreed - this success system was my biggest gripe with pitwall 1 - div 1 success should be considered worth 2 div 2 titles and 4 div 3 - its being addressed as sponsors and staff will look to div 1 teams as first choice but the team success is still measured equally - making the ranking system wildly innacurate
May 21, 2016 10:25 am

Liechtenstein Matthew Dellit

159 races

2 championships

8 wins

42 podiums

Current team

Liechtenstein DrakenSport Racing

I agree also, the staff and drivers look at a race win in Div 1 being equal to a race win in an empty Div 3.16 as being equal, when they are far from being equal.

Stupidly my run of struggles in Div 1 to just stay there is probably working in my favour in that regard, as I've not been doing well enough for my staff to realise they have been Div 1 competitors and thus they aren't asking the earth. If they did ask the earth though, they'd be out the door pronto.
May 21, 2016 12:15 pm

United Kingdom Adam Eggbeer

1098 races

45 championships

231 wins

548 podiums

Current team

United Kingdom Team Destroyers
Division 2.1

The big issue is that we can now see what the person wants in the contract. A lot of people assume that this is what they have to pay to get the person. This is why a lot of new teams come along and sign the high rated staff for big money and ruins their teams.
May 24, 2016 11:50 pm

United Kingdom James Ford

London

134 races

6 championships

19 wins

55 podiums

Current team

But isn't that what you have to pay? I've not had many accept too much less...
May 25, 2016 09:13 am

Finland Juuso Koskinen

166 races

2 championships

10 wins

27 podiums

Current team

I've started to think of staff as cattle. They're just replaceable units filling the headquarters.
May 25, 2016 09:20 am

New Zealand Daan M

944 races

25 championships

100 wins

258 podiums

Current team

United Kingdom TNF1
Division 2.1

But Adam, very few (if any) staff sign for less than the demand range.

And there is definitely a catch in the system that if the range is, say, 1,000-10,000 and you start with 5,000, then you can never offer less than 5,000 thereafter because it sets some sort of invisible hurdle in the demands when re-negociating. As if they know they are sought after.

Then if you start at 1,000 you end up going up increments all the way to 10,000 and often over which usually ends up worse.

It seems you are better starting with a higher number they accept than ball chasing figures.

I've tried this numerous times with success.

Point is - they rarely accept lower offers. Which means ALL staff wages will price themselves up and up exponentially to the point of unaffordability as there is no current system of wage reduction or drop rate.
May 25, 2016 02:22 pm

United Kingdom James Ford

London

134 races

6 championships

19 wins

55 podiums

Current team

I think their real demands jump only when they become tired of negotiating, I may be wrong though!
May 25, 2016 03:39 pm

United Kingdom Daniel Stevens

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408 races

7 championships

29 wins

94 podiums

Current team

they will only sign for less if unemployed - then will get the hump half way through first season and demand more anyway!
May 25, 2016 04:40 pm

New Zealand Daan M

944 races

25 championships

100 wins

258 podiums

Current team

United Kingdom TNF1
Division 2.1

James you may be right, I also thought this, if you get 10 teams all make offers and never follow through, their self worth must rocket.

I found a driver wanting a 4k wage, pulled back. Went to offer again and pull back 5 or 6 times and his demand and expectation went to over 60k!

This proves the problem is also down to users. It also means its fixable!

Trouble is its currently open to a torrent of abuse because you can falsely market drivers out of affordability. Something I suggested way back would happen just like decoy signings of teams.
May 25, 2016 08:02 pm

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