Forum topic: Research level

I have seen increases but not at that speed Dan. I might up my designers levels a bit as now it's just 7 or 8 researching a part.

I assume more complex parts such as a chassis will take longer to research. I wonder if it takes longer in higher divisions too?

I've had another read of the news post and its starting to make sense after re-reading it after some experience with the system.

"Based on the skill of your designer and how many developers you have assigned to the research project, the level will slowly increase until it reaches the skill of the head designer"

What i'm understanding now is that the developers assigned is the speed of the increase, if there is to be one, and it will only reach the level of your head designer. I've guessing this would be his/her inventive level? I guess where people are seeing no movement would be because they have reached there designer skill.



"When a new part is created, this level is mainly used to calculate how good the part is"

Originally i though that the research level would be the potential of the part, but im thinking actually it is the starting level of the part?

Sorry if i'm just recapping known stuff, i'm more just posting this to see if people come back and say yes your understanding it correctly

Spot on, this is what I have tried to say before.

People are looking for progress when there isn't any to be made! Forget all the rates of development and progress of parts before.

Everything now is a combination of factors using designer skill x number of designers allocated x level of research and then capped at the level of the designers ability.

How many of you here actually have Superb/Superb designers? Some of you might only have Good/Very Good. Or your team special skills might not be set to design, it might be commercial or pit times etc. Lots of other variables that all add up to what your teams design ability may be.

The max overall you are going to get potential wise is Good/Very Good or even Bad/Unsure with some of your staff.

You've been making parts before that might have been beyond the capability of these staff, giving an impression they are better than they really are maybe.

And the drops you see? Maybe that's just the team settling down so the parts now appropriately reflect their ability relatively speaking, as Frank said about things leveling off in time.

That's probably why so many people are seeing sudden drops and pouring money into a hole where the staff can't actually do anything about it lol.

I am not designing or producing many parts all at once either. Ever thought that might have something major to do with it all?

Focus on two or three parts at once, excel at them alone, and you'll see results

I can't stress enough, for a benchmark test put everything you have into sussing out the levels of research limits if your season is already a write off, otherwise you are pissing face first into the wind.

I hear of people using 5-8 staff on a part and developing multiple parts as well as balancing the research and wondering why they are seeing no/little progress after weeks of investment.

12 hours - 2 levels of research increase. That's a benchmark, and I bet it can change quicker if you put more staff on it!

Ok heres one for you..

I had a part go up a research level earlier today, i continue to research with the same number of desginers plus do a few laps of testing and.... the research level goes down lol!

Now that doesnt really make sense haha!

Are you making any parts at the same time? Producing or Designing?
What level is your designer? Have you developed a part better than what your designer skill actually is, and the drop in research is dropping to match that?

Zero everything, and put all on research. All your staff, for 2 days.

Dan's right. Its pointless researching and designing at the same time because your wasting your time and fighting a losing battle.

Leave researching alone until your done with your current design. Then research until you reach a level your happy with or your maximum (i think this does need to be displayed some how so you know, especially if you haven't scouted your designer) then build your new part.

All researching is, is an additional step in creating a NEW part and does not need to be done until you decide your going to do it.

You just need to think longer term with creating new parts now

Yup - its more of a long term thing. And it stops teams making superb parts all at once. You can have real specialist teams now, ones that have great aero bits, but terrible grip etc. There is no superb all rounder anymore, and that's a good thing!

I still might be wrong, but based on the evidence I have in front of me, this seems to have worked with research levels.

My Rear Wing has just turned to UNSURE since I posted earlier this morning. I am not developing any parts, only finishing production of a chassis.

Current Rating: BAD to UNSURE in approx 6 hours. Same as yesterday.
Time: 10:53 Pitwall O'Clock to 17:19 Pitwall O'Clock.

Someone else PLEASE try it!

I haven't get the staff to try it yet but it makes sense.

Once you understand that the researching is just part of the process of building a new part and not additional side work its fine.

Or at least that is how it seems to be working out

To be honest I still don't get how it all goes together, I just know doing A causes B to happen.

Was doing no making or developing of parts, just researching. The level has gone back up now. It still has another level to go before it gets to my designers level, if it can get there then I should be able to build an okay car hopefully.

I'd like some more staff but unfortunately I won't have any until next season, I think that may be why getting the research level up is working well for you Dan?